Why did D'angelo take down the prelim Feb 11 powerpoint when he posted this up? Now you can't compare the two. Are these guys pathologically devious??? Sheesh!!
I wish I could do it easily. I have to look into how to do it.
Thanks, Mr. DeAngelo! Really convenient. Excellent customer service. Things were so much worse when Reba Dunford had the job. She has the bus tread marks to prove it.
Meanwhile, I’m starting to compare the Feb11 preliminary and the May11 budget. All rounded to the nearest $1,000.
Revenue:
Feb = $17,248,000 May = $16,978,000
Change = minus $270,000
Why? = State Funding dropped $270,000
Expenses
Feb = $19,727,000 May = $17,228,000
Change = minus $2,499,000
Why? = The main drops in spending occurred in the following 5 areas:
1. Regular Programs (1100) -> minus $710,000 2. Special Programs (1200) -> minus $1,044,000 3. Support Services - Business (2500) -> minus $158,000 4. Operation & Maintenance of Plant Services (2600) -> minus $165,000 5. Student Activities (3200) -> minus $187,000
All other swings in the 13 other “100 level” items were < $75,000. 6 of the 13 went completely unchanged.
Anyone know what this years budget is for those line items? Obviously they went down from the preliminary budget, but how do they compare to this year's actual? I am particularly interested in 1100 and 1200.
That is a drastic cut in student activities. What's up with that?
I am glad to see the business office tightening its belt after wishlisting up an increase. Phase 2 should be pay freezes for Deangelo instead of his usual 4% annual increases.
Thanks Jon. Very helpful. I see your differences (on header lines) are against the Feb proposed budget. Here are the differences against the 2010-11 Final as well, plus percentages and a totals (of these 5 line items -- not the grand total) section.
While the differences from Feb to May budgets are striking, we know that was just the Wizard behind the curtain. My concern is the cuts compared to THIS year's budget, especially a 9% cut to Regular Programs (1100) and 22% cut to Support Services (2500). And like Anonymous stated above, a 48% cut to Student Activities (3200) will seriously alter what things the kids have available to them.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for low taxes. But lets not be pennywise and pound foolish. I also am for long-term growth of our little burb, and IMHO this ain't the way to do it.
DO NOT, repeat DO NOT, put ONE IOTA of stock in any preliminary budget produced by this Board/Admin.
When the newspaper talks of "$ ___ deficit" this, "$ ____ deficit" that, turn the page and move on, because it ISN'T REAL and it isn't worth your time or worry.
The Excel file prelim budget (1-26-11) is on there, but the Feb11 Powerpoint went down when the May11 Powerpoint went up. You can't really compare the Excel to the Powerpoint. The Excel file is only superficial - no details.
This was brought up before, and the Board/Business Office knows I and others are interested in the Powerpoints, which makes me think they're just toying with us, because they can.
These thoughts enter the mind when a distinct lack of trust builds up, due to a parade of non-responses, self-serving partial responses, inaccurate statements and figures, etc.
Then the tendency has been to get defensive and blame or attempt to demean the questioner.
Hence, a big problem I have with the Board and, to a lesser but not negligible extent, the Admin.
Your could be right. Hopefully not. Below is a post of mine from Feb. 17. Bottom line is you can't compare the 1 page Excel to the 50 page Powerpoint, and some of the numbers in the Feb PP changed a lot over the Jan11 Excel.
Also at last night's meeting(s), Business Manager Paul DeAngelo breezed through a PowerPoint (PP) presentation on the preliminary 2011-12 budget. He said he will post the PP on the district’s website. Thank you.
I noticed that some of the numbers in the PP are different than the ones in the Excel spreadsheet (ES) that was posted on the website several weeks ago, even though they both refer to the “preliminary budget”.
I couldn’t catch them all as Mr. DeAngelo was blowing through it, but some of the big swings I noticed (but were not explained) were:
Regular Instruction:
ES: $9.28 million, up a whopping $1.16 million (+14.3%) over last year’s $8.12 million
PP: $8.0 something million
A major swing of around $1.2 million not mentioned or explained last night. How did that happen?
Special Ed:
ES: $3.6 million, up about $600,000 (+20%) over last year’s $3.0 million
PP: $3.9 million (up another $300,000, which would a 30% increase over last year)
$3.9 million for Special Ed would be an all-time high. What happened to the idea of continued savings from bringing programs back here from the IU?
Operations & Maintenance:
ES: $1.444 million, down about $206,000 (-12.5%) over last year’s $1.650 million
PP: $1.69 something million (up another $40,000 – $50,000 over last year)
What happened to the idea of major savings from MR Reiter’s closing, and significant energy savings from the new boilers, windows, etc.? Thursday, February 17, 2011
Games people play, you take it or you leave it Things that they say, just don’t make it right If I’m telling you the truth right now, do you believe it Games people play in the middle of the night
Games people play, you take it or you leave it Things that they say, honor brite If I promise you the moon and the stars, would you believe it Games people play in the middle of the night
Games people play, you take it or you leave it Things that they say, just don’t make it right If I’m telling you the truth right now, do you believe it Games people play in the middle of the night
The data and stats on PDE are not yet available. That's how it is, along with the budgets, there are many issues in every district throughout PA. ,due to the lack in fed. & state funding the timeline for budgets has been not expedited. One issue was explained, eloquently Wed. night by our Director Special Ed. Did you ever think there could be other issues that must not be made public? The Morrisville Matters candidates, who attended the BCIU #22 orientation are not keeping this blog informed on the nature of a school directors responsibilities. They could be hiding that truth, until they get into the position of director themselves and then, business as usual! It's amazing what people will do to get elected. I'm sure more will be revealed! We still have a little school district and it is going to continue through 2011-2012, with a budget thats workable. That is a real good thing! Everything is going to be OK.
If you are who I think you are, you're a Stay on Course school board member and candidate for re-election.
What are you doing to keep the public informed? This blog is a blog. You are a school board director. Please don't confuse blogs with governance.
You really don't make a lot of sense, I'm sorry to say.
I'm not talking about PDE and data. I'm talking about a Feb11 Powerpoint presentation that was available and was on the district website and now it's not - do we the public have to play this game of hocus-pocus every time?
Keep changing the subject to mysterious tangential stuff while you keep us in the dark. Don't worry, you're very lucky that not enough people are aware of what's going on. But I really dislike continuing that as an election strategy. That's a major part of "business as usual" I don't want to see from Morrisville Matters - I expect to see a big improvement. It shouldn't be hard - the bar is low.
Tell me more about which Arne Duncan thing you're talking about. He's the US Sec. of Education - he says a lot of things. Which one in particular are you referring to - his recent letter to teachers?
Anonymous above. From what you've written if sounds like you know something about the nature of school directors responsibilities that everyone should be informed about. Please enlighten us with what you know. Why do we have to wait for anyone else to tell us if you already know? Please share what you are referring to.
You read and found nothing profound? I find that disturbing. I thought all MorrisvilleMatter supporters were concerned about the education. I guess it is true, they are only concerned with discrediting the current schoolboard. The bar is low, but the Morrisville sch.brd. doesn't set the bar. PSBA&PDE sets the bar(barrier) !!! I accept your apology-I also am very sorry to say, You make no sense at all. I do sense quite a bit of anger and ego with you - once again , sorry! Did you ever take notice, children, by nature, aren't angry and egotistical? They are taught those traits. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! PEACE
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it,not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. Buddha
Never pay back evil for evil to anyone. Do things in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable. Do your part to live in peace with everyone, as much as possible. Don't let evil get the best of you, but conquer evil by doing good. Paul the apostle Romans 12
it's funny to hear someone say people will do what ever to get elected and if thats coming from a current board member thats a big joke they lie, twist facts, play dumb to the law and out right lie again. Maybe the board member who is writing is trying to run a fair campain, but they need to take a hard look at their running mates, and ask are they do anything to get re elected
The Board discredits themselves when they lie, deceive, distort, don't attend meetings they're supposed to attend, etc Jon calls them on it. That's not on him, that's on them, not PDE, PSBA, Arne Duncan, Soledad O'Brien, Buddha, or Paul the Apostle.
To the person posting anonymously re: the morrisville matters candidates... We always post with our name and we always talk openly and honestly. You can reach us directly at 267-798-6916. If there is anything you would like to discuss with the candidates feel free to give us a call. Thank you and enjoy your Sunday
"We still have a little school district and it is going to continue through 2011-2012, with a budget thats workable. That is a real good thing! Everything is going to be OK."
This just bothers me so much.
This sounds a lot like "just cooperate". I'm sorry, that might be ok for some people but it's just not enough for me and should not be enough for you. I guess that's one of the differences in people.
I have no children in the Morrisville School District and I am on a "fixed" income. Nobody like paying taxes, nobody. Most people have to make adjustments to their personal budgets to make them "workable" in making allowances for tax increases, me included. Education is worth this to me and it should be to you as well. So sad that so many in Morrisville cannot see the value in the quality of educating the children of the borough over the money savings.
The bottom line is that the school district is being destroyed by a group who has verbally beaten the public with scare tactics to the point of the people actually believing that they can no longer afford to educate their own community's most vulnerable citizens even though they have been doing so for years and years.
31 comments:
Why did D'angelo take down the prelim Feb 11 powerpoint when he posted this up?
Now you can't compare the two.
Are these guys pathologically devious??? Sheesh!!
Was wondering the same general thing.
Luckily, I had my feathers numbered for just such an emergency. I saved a copy.
Jon -Can you post the info from 2/11 here
I wish I could do it easily. I have to look into how to do it.
Thanks, Mr. DeAngelo! Really convenient. Excellent customer service. Things were so much worse when Reba Dunford had the job. She has the bus tread marks to prove it.
Meanwhile, I’m starting to compare the Feb11 preliminary and the May11 budget. All rounded to the nearest $1,000.
Revenue:
Feb = $17,248,000
May = $16,978,000
Change = minus $270,000
Why? = State Funding dropped $270,000
Expenses
Feb = $19,727,000
May = $17,228,000
Change = minus $2,499,000
Why? = The main drops in spending occurred in the following 5 areas:
1. Regular Programs (1100) -> minus $710,000
2. Special Programs (1200) -> minus $1,044,000
3. Support Services - Business (2500) -> minus $158,000
4. Operation & Maintenance of Plant Services (2600) -> minus $165,000
5. Student Activities (3200) -> minus $187,000
All other swings in the 13 other “100 level” items were < $75,000. 6 of the 13 went completely unchanged.
Anyone know what this years budget is for those line items? Obviously they went down from the preliminary budget, but how do they compare to this year's actual? I am particularly interested in 1100 and 1200.
I had a gut feeling they were going to take down the prelim budget I saved it today
Peter, I don't have actuals. You may need to take a day off and schedule a special appointment with Mr. DeAngelo for them.
1. Regular Programs (1100) -> minus $710,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) = $8,119,000
2011-12 Budget (Feb) = $8,076,000
2011-12 Budget (May) = $7,366,000
2. Special Programs (1200) -> minus $1,044,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) = $3,003,000
2011-12 Budget (Feb) = $3,976,000
2011-12 Budget (May) = $2,932,000
3. Support Services - Business (2500) -> minus $158,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) = $423,000
2011-12 Budget (Feb) = $489,000
2011-12 Budget (May) = $332,000
4. Operation & Maintenance of Plant Services (2600) -> minus $165,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) = $1,650,000
2011-12 Budget (Feb) = $1,663,000
2011-12 Budget (May) = $1,498,000
5. Student Activities (3200) -> minus $187,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) = $292,000
2011-12 Budget (Feb) = $340,000
2011-12 Budget (May) = $153,000
The Student Activities cut is 55%!
Maintenance budget drop === renovate, then immediately commence new cycle of deferral and neglect??
Big savings from the two vacant buildings huh??
Note that Hellmann said we would save A FORTUNE. EVERY YEAR.
That is a drastic cut in student activities. What's up with that?
I am glad to see the business office tightening its belt after wishlisting up an increase. Phase 2 should be pay freezes for Deangelo instead of his usual 4% annual increases.
Thanks Jon. Very helpful. I see your differences (on header lines) are against the Feb proposed budget. Here are the differences against the 2010-11 Final as well, plus percentages and a totals (of these 5 line items -- not the grand total) section.
While the differences from Feb to May budgets are striking, we know that was just the Wizard behind the curtain. My concern is the cuts compared to THIS year's budget, especially a 9% cut to Regular Programs (1100) and 22% cut to Support Services (2500). And like Anonymous stated above, a 48% cut to Student Activities (3200) will seriously alter what things the kids have available to them.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for low taxes. But lets not be pennywise and pound foolish. I also am for long-term growth of our little burb, and IMHO this ain't the way to do it.
1. Regular Programs (1100) -> minus $710,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) $8,119,000 ($753,000) -9%
2011-12 Budget (Feb) $8,076,000 ($710,000) -9%
2011-12 Budget (May) $7,366,000
2. Special Programs (1200) -> minus $1,044,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) $3,003,000 ($71,000) -2%
2011-12 Budget (Feb) $3,976,000 ($1,044,000) -26%
2011-12 Budget (May) $2,932,000
3. Support Services - Business (2500) -> minus $158,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) $423,000 ($91,000) -22%
2011-12 Budget (Feb) $489,000 ($157,000) -32%
2011-12 Budget (May) $332,000
4. Operation & Maintenance of Plant Services (2600) -> minus $165,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) $1,650,000 ($152,000) -9%
2011-12 Budget (Feb) $1,663,000 ($165,000) -10%
2011-12 Budget (May) $1,498,000
5. Student Activities (3200) -> minus $187,000
2010-11 Budget (Final) $292,000 ($139,000) -48%
2011-12 Budget (Feb) $340,000 ($187,000) -55%
2011-12 Budget (May) $153,000
2010-2011 Budget (above) $13,487,000 ($1,206,000) -9%
2011-12 Budget (Feb, above) $14,544,000 ($2,263,000) -16%
2011-12 Budget (May, above) $12,281,000
Note to Self and Everyone Else:
DO NOT, repeat DO NOT, put ONE IOTA of stock in any preliminary budget produced by this Board/Admin.
When the newspaper talks of "$ ___ deficit" this, "$ ____ deficit" that, turn the page and move on, because it ISN'T REAL and it isn't worth your time or worry.
They are a TOTAL CHARADE.
it appears both the prelim Jan budget and new May budget are on the mv.org website under bus. office and then all on left.
Yes and No. Mostly No.
The Excel file prelim budget (1-26-11) is on there, but the Feb11 Powerpoint went down when the May11 Powerpoint went up. You can't really compare the Excel to the Powerpoint. The Excel file is only superficial - no details.
This was brought up before, and the Board/Business Office knows I and others are interested in the Powerpoints, which makes me think they're just toying with us, because they can.
These thoughts enter the mind when a distinct lack of trust builds up, due to a parade of non-responses, self-serving partial responses, inaccurate statements and figures, etc.
Then the tendency has been to get defensive and blame or attempt to demean the questioner.
Hence, a big problem I have with the Board and, to a lesser but not negligible extent, the Admin.
But at least it's going to be sunny tomorrow!
Fear not, it'll be up minutes before the wed 5/25 board mtg so Paul D can claim it's up
Your could be right. Hopefully not. Below is a post of mine from Feb. 17. Bottom line is you can't compare the 1 page Excel to the 50 page Powerpoint, and some of the numbers in the Feb PP changed a lot over the Jan11 Excel.
Also at last night's meeting(s), Business Manager Paul DeAngelo breezed through a PowerPoint (PP) presentation on the preliminary 2011-12 budget. He said he will post the PP on the district’s website. Thank you.
I noticed that some of the numbers in the PP are different than the ones in the Excel spreadsheet (ES) that was posted on the website several weeks ago, even though they both refer to the “preliminary budget”.
I couldn’t catch them all as Mr. DeAngelo was blowing through it, but some of the big swings I noticed (but were not explained) were:
Regular Instruction:
ES: $9.28 million, up a whopping $1.16 million (+14.3%) over last year’s $8.12 million
PP: $8.0 something million
A major swing of around $1.2 million not mentioned or explained last night. How did that happen?
Special Ed:
ES: $3.6 million, up about $600,000 (+20%) over last year’s $3.0 million
PP: $3.9 million (up another $300,000, which would a 30% increase over last year)
$3.9 million for Special Ed would be an all-time high. What happened to the idea of continued savings from bringing programs back here from the IU?
Operations & Maintenance:
ES: $1.444 million, down about $206,000 (-12.5%) over last year’s $1.650 million
PP: $1.69 something million (up another $40,000 – $50,000 over last year)
What happened to the idea of major savings from MR Reiter’s closing, and significant energy savings from the new boilers, windows, etc.?
Thursday, February 17, 2011
Games people play, you take it or you leave it
Things that they say, just don’t make it right
If I’m telling you the truth right now, do you believe it
Games people play in the middle of the night
Games people play, you take it or you leave it
Things that they say, honor brite
If I promise you the moon and the stars, would you believe it
Games people play in the middle of the night
Games people play, you take it or you leave it
Things that they say, just don’t make it right
If I’m telling you the truth right now, do you believe it
Games people play in the middle of the night
The data and stats on PDE are not yet available. That's how it is, along with the budgets, there are many issues in every district throughout PA. ,due to the lack in fed. & state funding the timeline for budgets has been not expedited. One issue was explained, eloquently Wed. night by our Director Special Ed. Did you ever think there could be other issues that must not be made public? The Morrisville Matters candidates, who attended the BCIU #22 orientation are not keeping this blog informed on the nature of a school directors responsibilities. They could be hiding that truth, until they get into the position of director themselves and then, business as usual! It's amazing what people will do to get elected. I'm sure more will be revealed!
We still have a little school district and it is going to continue through 2011-2012, with a budget thats workable. That is a real good thing!
Everything is going to be OK.
If you are who I think you are, you're a Stay on Course school board member and candidate for re-election.
What are you doing to keep the public informed? This blog is a blog. You are a school board director. Please don't confuse blogs with governance.
You really don't make a lot of sense, I'm sorry to say.
I'm not talking about PDE and data. I'm talking about a Feb11 Powerpoint presentation that was available and was on the district website and now it's not - do we the public have to play this game of hocus-pocus every time?
Keep changing the subject to mysterious tangential stuff while you keep us in the dark. Don't worry, you're very lucky that not enough people are aware of what's going on. But I really dislike continuing that as an election strategy. That's a major part of "business as usual" I don't want to see from Morrisville Matters - I expect to see a big improvement. It shouldn't be hard - the bar is low.
Tell me more about which Arne Duncan thing you're talking about. He's the US Sec. of Education - he says a lot of things. Which one in particular are you referring to - his recent letter to teachers?
Anonymous above. From what you've written if sounds like you know something about the nature of school directors responsibilities that everyone should be informed about. Please enlighten us with what you know. Why do we have to wait for anyone else to tell us if you already know? Please share what you are referring to.
You read and found nothing profound? I find that disturbing. I thought all MorrisvilleMatter supporters were concerned about the education. I guess it is true, they are only concerned with discrediting the current schoolboard. The bar is low, but the Morrisville sch.brd. doesn't set the bar. PSBA&PDE sets the bar(barrier) !!! I accept your apology-I also am very sorry to say, You make no sense at all. I do sense quite a bit of anger and ego with you - once again , sorry!
Did you ever take notice, children, by nature, aren't angry and egotistical? They are taught those traits. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! PEACE
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it,not even if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
Buddha
Never pay back evil for evil to anyone. Do things in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable. Do your part to live in peace with everyone, as much as possible. Don't let evil get the best of you, but conquer evil by doing good.
Paul the apostle
Romans 12
it's funny to hear someone say people will do what ever to get elected and if thats coming from a current board member thats a big joke they lie, twist facts, play dumb to the law and out right lie again. Maybe the board member who is writing is trying to run a fair campain, but they need to take a hard look at their running mates, and ask are they do anything to get re elected
You can't argue with nutty.
The Board discredits themselves when they lie, deceive, distort, don't attend meetings they're supposed to attend, etc
Jon calls them on it. That's not on him, that's on them, not PDE, PSBA, Arne Duncan, Soledad O'Brien, Buddha, or Paul the Apostle.
To the person posting anonymously re: the morrisville matters candidates... We always post with our name and we always talk openly and honestly. You can reach us directly at 267-798-6916. If there is anything you would like to discuss with the candidates feel free to give us a call. Thank you and enjoy your Sunday
There are many interesting topics listed above...is there anyone out there with any knowledge on the school related topics?
Find safety inside the storm-trust in Jesus.
"We still have a little school district and it is going to continue through 2011-2012, with a budget thats workable. That is a real good thing!
Everything is going to be OK."
This just bothers me so much.
This sounds a lot like "just cooperate". I'm sorry, that might be ok for some people but it's just not enough for me and should not be enough for you. I guess that's one of the differences in people.
I have no children in the Morrisville School District and I am on a "fixed" income.
Nobody like paying taxes, nobody. Most people have to make adjustments to their personal budgets to make them "workable" in making allowances for tax increases, me included. Education is worth this to me and it should be to you as well. So sad that so many in Morrisville cannot see the value in the quality of educating the children of the borough over the money savings.
The bottom line is that the school district is being destroyed by a group who has verbally beaten the public with scare tactics to the point of the people actually believing that they can no longer afford to educate their own community's most vulnerable citizens even though they have been doing so for years and years.
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